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	<title>Comments on: Regarding the new Star Trek</title>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/05/25/regarding-the-new-star-trek/#comment-7364</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 22:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its all crap. See my 100 Reasons Star Trek SUCKED: http://startrekxisucks.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its all crap. See my 100 Reasons Star Trek SUCKED: <a href="http://startrekxisucks.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://startrekxisucks.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: JIm</title>
		<link>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/05/25/regarding-the-new-star-trek/#comment-7361</link>
		<dc:creator>JIm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 18:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think that some of the mentioned changes are there to develop buzz about the movie?
Sounds like a marketing ploy and in the end we can always go back in time and clean things up.
I enjoyed the movie, I thought it was entertaining and I hope it generates more movies. I would like more accuracy, but I understand that contraversy generates talk and talk gets more people to go to the movie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think that some of the mentioned changes are there to develop buzz about the movie?<br />
Sounds like a marketing ploy and in the end we can always go back in time and clean things up.<br />
I enjoyed the movie, I thought it was entertaining and I hope it generates more movies. I would like more accuracy, but I understand that contraversy generates talk and talk gets more people to go to the movie</p>
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		<title>By: Eugenia</title>
		<link>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/05/25/regarding-the-new-star-trek/#comment-7332</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugenia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 16:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lost is not the same. They go back in time merely to show a story that already happened. They can&#039;t change ANYTHING that hadn&#039;t already happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lost is not the same. They go back in time merely to show a story that already happened. They can&#8217;t change ANYTHING that hadn&#8217;t already happened.</p>
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		<title>By: risiho</title>
		<link>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/05/25/regarding-the-new-star-trek/#comment-7328</link>
		<dc:creator>risiho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 08:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time travel opens up too many cans of worms. No matter what happens, everything can be undone at anytime. Death no longer has the same effect because you can always go back and make things undead. My fav sci fi does not have time travel. Lost was great till I found out they could go back and forth in time..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time travel opens up too many cans of worms. No matter what happens, everything can be undone at anytime. Death no longer has the same effect because you can always go back and make things undead. My fav sci fi does not have time travel. Lost was great till I found out they could go back and forth in time..</p>
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		<title>By: mabhatter</title>
		<link>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/05/25/regarding-the-new-star-trek/#comment-7321</link>
		<dc:creator>mabhatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 04:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, if Vulcan was so important why did we never go there.  Did they EVER go there in TOS? Only for brief scenes in the movies. I don&#039;t recall more than one or two times in TNG either tops. Only in Enterprise did they ever really explore the Vulcans in any great detail. They like to have a lot of Vulcan characters and talk about logic, but vulcans were too &quot;hallowed&quot; to be part of the plot.  The Planet of Vulcan means nothing in TV/Movie cannon, there&#039;ll be plenty of Vulcan&#039;s left to be &quot;logical&quot; for years to come. 

I really hope we stay &quot;stuck&quot; in this universe for any other movies and we never see time travel again. I liked it for the novelty of being broken and STAYING broken and now the characters we know have to prove themselves in different circumstance.  As a bookstore goer there are hundreds of Star Trek Comics/novels/games printed.  Everything just shy of what&#039;s in this movie has been explored to death for every possible character that ever appeared on film, in multiple timelines, and it&#039;s supposed to all be &quot;canon&quot;. I felt it flowed nicely from First Contact and the Enterprise series. That series &quot;grounded&quot; the franchise by stripping all the &quot;god&quot; gadgets, and they don&#039;t get out of trouble with technobabble, but with wits and courage. 

Abrams recreated a world where nobody&#039;s safe, anybody can be killed off and at the end of the movie now, Paramount can disavow his changes like any of the countless novels on the shelves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, if Vulcan was so important why did we never go there.  Did they EVER go there in TOS? Only for brief scenes in the movies. I don&#8217;t recall more than one or two times in TNG either tops. Only in Enterprise did they ever really explore the Vulcans in any great detail. They like to have a lot of Vulcan characters and talk about logic, but vulcans were too &#8220;hallowed&#8221; to be part of the plot.  The Planet of Vulcan means nothing in TV/Movie cannon, there&#8217;ll be plenty of Vulcan&#8217;s left to be &#8220;logical&#8221; for years to come. </p>
<p>I really hope we stay &#8220;stuck&#8221; in this universe for any other movies and we never see time travel again. I liked it for the novelty of being broken and STAYING broken and now the characters we know have to prove themselves in different circumstance.  As a bookstore goer there are hundreds of Star Trek Comics/novels/games printed.  Everything just shy of what&#8217;s in this movie has been explored to death for every possible character that ever appeared on film, in multiple timelines, and it&#8217;s supposed to all be &#8220;canon&#8221;. I felt it flowed nicely from First Contact and the Enterprise series. That series &#8220;grounded&#8221; the franchise by stripping all the &#8220;god&#8221; gadgets, and they don&#8217;t get out of trouble with technobabble, but with wits and courage. </p>
<p>Abrams recreated a world where nobody&#8217;s safe, anybody can be killed off and at the end of the movie now, Paramount can disavow his changes like any of the countless novels on the shelves.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugenia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugenia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point is, that the story of how the crew came to be together was never told before. So JJ Abrams could still keep it faithful to the timeline, AND tell a NEW story.

The fact that the original timeline still exists is a moot point. It&#039;s like someone got some paint and painted on top of an existing graffiti. The fact that the original graffiti exists underneath the new paint doesn&#039;t make it &quot;right&quot;. It was disrespectful, and took away a lot of the believability of the ST universe.

My point is, that Abrams could have told a story that fit in the original timeline, and be a story that we never heard before. The fact that there are encyclopedias about Star Trek, doesn&#039;t mean that everything has been told.

To me, it feels like he didn&#039;t wanna pay the extra salary of a continuity researcher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is, that the story of how the crew came to be together was never told before. So JJ Abrams could still keep it faithful to the timeline, AND tell a NEW story.</p>
<p>The fact that the original timeline still exists is a moot point. It&#8217;s like someone got some paint and painted on top of an existing graffiti. The fact that the original graffiti exists underneath the new paint doesn&#8217;t make it &#8220;right&#8221;. It was disrespectful, and took away a lot of the believability of the ST universe.</p>
<p>My point is, that Abrams could have told a story that fit in the original timeline, and be a story that we never heard before. The fact that there are encyclopedias about Star Trek, doesn&#8217;t mean that everything has been told.</p>
<p>To me, it feels like he didn&#8217;t wanna pay the extra salary of a continuity researcher.</p>
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		<title>By: Ikshaar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ikshaar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand and agree with some of the critics (romulan mining ship design, hose thing, Vulcans which seem to do nothing) you guys made. But I still loved it.

Spock+Uhura = love the twist to the old and boring &quot;Kirk get the girl&quot; plot

I guess I am not hardcore enough (although I saw original in the 70s) to be bother by the changes to the timeline. Plus if you consider Old Spock point of view, the entire original timeline existed (and always will - he lived it) and now a new one is added in a parallel universe.  A absolute remake of the old storyline would have make impossible to say/create anything new.   

Eugenia, your comparison to BSG failed to note that many fans hated the new remake for not being faithful. Exactly what people seems to be upset about this time again. 

Au contrary, I think that by taking the middle ground approach, JJA did the only thing possible. Fans would have dismiss a remake from scratch for being unfaithful (except you i guess) and regular people would have been bored of being retold the same old story again if he had done a &quot;pure&quot; Star Trek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand and agree with some of the critics (romulan mining ship design, hose thing, Vulcans which seem to do nothing) you guys made. But I still loved it.</p>
<p>Spock+Uhura = love the twist to the old and boring &#8220;Kirk get the girl&#8221; plot</p>
<p>I guess I am not hardcore enough (although I saw original in the 70s) to be bother by the changes to the timeline. Plus if you consider Old Spock point of view, the entire original timeline existed (and always will &#8211; he lived it) and now a new one is added in a parallel universe.  A absolute remake of the old storyline would have make impossible to say/create anything new.   </p>
<p>Eugenia, your comparison to BSG failed to note that many fans hated the new remake for not being faithful. Exactly what people seems to be upset about this time again. </p>
<p>Au contrary, I think that by taking the middle ground approach, JJA did the only thing possible. Fans would have dismiss a remake from scratch for being unfaithful (except you i guess) and regular people would have been bored of being retold the same old story again if he had done a &#8220;pure&#8221; Star Trek.</p>
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		<title>By: William Eggington</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Eggington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 11:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just so confused as to why it is getting such rave reviews.  Batman Beyond was confusing in that way as well.  Joker rocked but. . . the rest?!?  yikes.  But it still blew all the reviewers away!  So confusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just so confused as to why it is getting such rave reviews.  Batman Beyond was confusing in that way as well.  Joker rocked but. . . the rest?!?  yikes.  But it still blew all the reviewers away!  So confusing.</p>
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		<title>By: l3v1</title>
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		<dc:creator>l3v1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 09:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, maybe they&#039;ll make a Star Wars rerun, where Ewoks are the main characters, who turn out to be master time travellers (since JJA can&#039;t seem to live without alternate timelines, alternate universes, and alternate alternates), with Jedis being assylum lunatics making funny faces trying to mind control their doctors.

This Trek was wrong on so many levels it&#039;s hard to even consider making a list of them. It was just a flashbang for the subteenagers out there, and a joke for the rest of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, maybe they&#8217;ll make a Star Wars rerun, where Ewoks are the main characters, who turn out to be master time travellers (since JJA can&#8217;t seem to live without alternate timelines, alternate universes, and alternate alternates), with Jedis being assylum lunatics making funny faces trying to mind control their doctors.</p>
<p>This Trek was wrong on so many levels it&#8217;s hard to even consider making a list of them. It was just a flashbang for the subteenagers out there, and a joke for the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Hartman</title>
		<link>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/05/25/regarding-the-new-star-trek/#comment-7312</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Hartman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 03:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your review sounds just like mine...

This was not the movie I wanted either. It certainly wasn&#039;t the movie we were promised. We were promised that this movie wasn&#039;t a reboot and would tell the story of how our beloved characters meet.

We didn&#039;t get that. We got a story about some other people from another universe who shared the same names, but most everything else was different.

I wanted the love and care put into the Enterprise episode &quot;In A Mirror Darkly&quot; on the big screen. Every episode that recreated the original series sets and took place in them were top rated episodes.

Paramount isn&#039;t listening to the fans. We don&#039;t go to see a movie once. We go 20 times. We buy the DVD and the Blu-Ra y, the books, the soundtracks, the models and toys...

Paramount is leaving a lot of money on the table. I&#039;ll only see this movie once, the toys and models look like dog doo, the soundtrack is not very good, the book is different from the movie in significant ways, etc...

I&#039;ll keep watching the Star Trek Phase II fan films that get it right and give me the Star Trek I grew up with and love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your review sounds just like mine&#8230;</p>
<p>This was not the movie I wanted either. It certainly wasn&#8217;t the movie we were promised. We were promised that this movie wasn&#8217;t a reboot and would tell the story of how our beloved characters meet.</p>
<p>We didn&#8217;t get that. We got a story about some other people from another universe who shared the same names, but most everything else was different.</p>
<p>I wanted the love and care put into the Enterprise episode &#8220;In A Mirror Darkly&#8221; on the big screen. Every episode that recreated the original series sets and took place in them were top rated episodes.</p>
<p>Paramount isn&#8217;t listening to the fans. We don&#8217;t go to see a movie once. We go 20 times. We buy the DVD and the Blu-Ra y, the books, the soundtracks, the models and toys&#8230;</p>
<p>Paramount is leaving a lot of money on the table. I&#8217;ll only see this movie once, the toys and models look like dog doo, the soundtrack is not very good, the book is different from the movie in significant ways, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll keep watching the Star Trek Phase II fan films that get it right and give me the Star Trek I grew up with and love.</p>
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