Comments on: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Video http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/17/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-video/ Sat, 11 Oct 2008 06:35:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Eugenia http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/17/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-video/#comment-6487 Eugenia Sun, 23 Mar 2008 19:16:03 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/17/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-video/#comment-6487 Actually, hollywood porn movies do give credit where it's due. They are professionals. So I would expect that they would respect the license. Actually, hollywood porn movies do give credit where it’s due. They are professionals. So I would expect that they would respect the license.

]]> By: Michael http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/17/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-video/#comment-6484 Michael Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:51:08 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/17/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-video/#comment-6484 Eugenia, you misunderstood Richard's comment above, where he writes "Are you aware that 'evil' people might just take your work without paying attention to the license?" He was pointing out that you wrote about being worried that your name might appear in the credits of a morally repugnant production, yet in all likelihood the sort of people who would use your footage for such purposes wouldn't have enough moral character to bother giving you credit. So the scenario of law enforcement authorities tracking you down to ascertain your involvement in a questionable project is a bit of a stretch. I'm glad you came to the conclusion in #3 above: Stop worrying about it. Eugenia, you misunderstood Richard’s comment above, where he writes “Are you aware that ‘evil’ people might just take your work without paying attention to the license?”

He was pointing out that you wrote about being worried that your name might appear in the credits of a morally repugnant production, yet in all likelihood the sort of people who would use your footage for such purposes wouldn’t have enough moral character to bother giving you credit. So the scenario of law enforcement authorities tracking you down to ascertain your involvement in a questionable project is a bit of a stretch. I’m glad you came to the conclusion in #3 above: Stop worrying about it.

]]> By: Michael http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/17/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-video/#comment-6395 Michael Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:08:57 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/17/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-video/#comment-6395 Nazi porn in Stanford. This is an interesting idea. Nazi porn in Stanford. This is an interesting idea.

]]> By: Eugenia http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/17/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-video/#comment-6378 Eugenia Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:28:39 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/17/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-video/#comment-6378 Elai, yes, I am that paranoid, especially in the US, the country of the lawyers. If I was still in Greece, probably I wouldn't give a flying monkey about it. And being on a visa here, yes, I have to be careful to not be misunderstood or it can cost me my US visa. Elai, yes, I am that paranoid, especially in the US, the country of the lawyers. If I was still in Greece, probably I wouldn’t give a flying monkey about it. And being on a visa here, yes, I have to be careful to not be misunderstood or it can cost me my US visa.

]]> By: elai http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/17/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-video/#comment-6377 elai Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:25:35 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/17/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-video/#comment-6377 Are you really that paranoid? I think people can tell that just because your abstract art is used by other people, it doesn't mean that's your message. If neo-nazi's use microsofts clip art in their newsletters, do you think microsoft would be even thought about in the case. Nooooo. Are you really that paranoid? I think people can tell that just because your abstract art is used by other people, it doesn’t mean that’s your message. If neo-nazi’s use microsofts clip art in their newsletters, do you think microsoft would be even thought about in the case. Nooooo.

]]> By: Eugenia http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/17/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-video/#comment-6376 Eugenia Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:20:55 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/17/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-video/#comment-6376 Yes. But it's a state that offers no legal guarantees to the creator, so I avoid it. Plus, it is not recognized worldwide, while CC has been ported in most countries. More over, there is not enough good music under Public Domain (and most of what exists, is of bad recording quality), so I can't possibly find good music for my videos without writing it myself. So, CC-BY it is. It's the most liberal, and most "safe" of the ultra-liberal licenses. Yes. But it’s a state that offers no legal guarantees to the creator, so I avoid it. Plus, it is not recognized worldwide, while CC has been ported in most countries. More over, there is not enough good music under Public Domain (and most of what exists, is of bad recording quality), so I can’t possibly find good music for my videos without writing it myself. So, CC-BY it is. It’s the most liberal, and most “safe” of the ultra-liberal licenses.

]]> By: mikesum32 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/17/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-video/#comment-6375 mikesum32 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:18:04 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/17/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-video/#comment-6375 Public doamin isn't a licence, it's a lack of one. Public doamin isn’t a licence, it’s a lack of one.

]]> By: Eugenia http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/17/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-video/#comment-6374 Eugenia Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:40:05 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/17/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-video/#comment-6374 Ivan, you have it all upside down. You really don't understand how this works. In my opinion, Remyyy, Charlie and almost everyone else on Vimeo make a MISTAKE for not explicitly licensing their work. It is not about getting attribution, it is about ALLOWING others to RE-USE your work. In the USA, and MOST other countries (including France), if you don't explicitly license your work with a specific license, then that work AUTOMATICALLY falls under the MOST RESTRICTIVE license of the country's copyright law. In other words, re-using without permission Charlie's and Remyyy's work for a remix video, would be an OFFENSE. That's why I explicitly license my footage, because I want to give FREEDOM to others to do what they want with it. The CC-BY is the most liberal of ALL the CC licenses, that's why I use it. It's not because of the "Attribution" part, but because it's the most open of all. The Public Domain license has major problems (is not legal in some countries and has no 'moral rights' protection), so I stay put with the CC-BY. <em>>Isn’t that JBQ’s job?</em> No. JBQ is an engineer. But he can read legalese. <em>>Are you aware that “evil” people might just take your work without paying attention to the license?</em> Of course I am. And I don't care. Read my comment above. I use the CC-BY because it's the most liberal "safe" CC license of all, not because of the "attribution" part. I am sorry for using capitals, but it kind of bothers me when people don't understand such basic things and instead, they INDIRECTLY accuse me of being a snob or wanting my name on other people's works (Ivan, that's what you were doing). But in reality, all I do is CLEAR UP the legal situation and CLEARLY say that, YES, my footage is FREE. If I don't say this, then it is NOT free from the legal point of view, and this can turn off people from re-using it, as serious people who try to find stock footage, usually search by license! Ivan, you have it all upside down. You really don’t understand how this works.

In my opinion, Remyyy, Charlie and almost everyone else on Vimeo make a MISTAKE for not explicitly licensing their work. It is not about getting attribution, it is about ALLOWING others to RE-USE your work. In the USA, and MOST other countries (including France), if you don’t explicitly license your work with a specific license, then that work AUTOMATICALLY falls under the MOST RESTRICTIVE license of the country’s copyright law. In other words, re-using without permission Charlie’s and Remyyy’s work for a remix video, would be an OFFENSE.

That’s why I explicitly license my footage, because I want to give FREEDOM to others to do what they want with it. The CC-BY is the most liberal of ALL the CC licenses, that’s why I use it. It’s not because of the “Attribution” part, but because it’s the most open of all. The Public Domain license has major problems (is not legal in some countries and has no ‘moral rights’ protection), so I stay put with the CC-BY.

>Isn’t that JBQ’s job?

No. JBQ is an engineer. But he can read legalese.

>Are you aware that “evil” people might just take your work without paying attention to the license?

Of course I am. And I don’t care. Read my comment above. I use the CC-BY because it’s the most liberal “safe” CC license of all, not because of the “attribution” part.

I am sorry for using capitals, but it kind of bothers me when people don’t understand such basic things and instead, they INDIRECTLY accuse me of being a snob or wanting my name on other people’s works (Ivan, that’s what you were doing). But in reality, all I do is CLEAR UP the legal situation and CLEARLY say that, YES, my footage is FREE. If I don’t say this, then it is NOT free from the legal point of view, and this can turn off people from re-using it, as serious people who try to find stock footage, usually search by license!

]]> By: Richard http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/17/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-video/#comment-6372 Richard Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:04:29 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/17/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-video/#comment-6372 Are you aware that "evil" people might just take your work without paying attention to the license? Are you aware that “evil” people might just take your work without paying attention to the license?

]]> By: Ivan http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/17/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-video/#comment-6371 Ivan Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:36:21 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/17/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-video/#comment-6371 Run this search: Google's Miner: We will outsell the iPhone Isn't that JBQ's job? Run this search: Google’s Miner: We will outsell the iPhone

Isn’t that JBQ’s job?

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