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		<title>By: -kf</title>
		<link>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/02/29/this-war-on-terrorism-is-bogus/#comment-6213</link>
		<author>-kf</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The world was a safer place when the United States and Great Britain kept third world countries in check. Radical Isalm was a toothless dog when the Middle East was a colony of Britain. Imperialism is preferable to anarchy, Islamofascism, and your Star Trek fantasy land you live in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world was a safer place when the United States and Great Britain kept third world countries in check. Radical Isalm was a toothless dog when the Middle East was a colony of Britain. Imperialism is preferable to anarchy, Islamofascism, and your Star Trek fantasy land you live in.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Rosky</title>
		<link>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/02/29/this-war-on-terrorism-is-bogus/#comment-6184</link>
		<author>Dave Rosky</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/02/29/this-war-on-terrorism-is-bogus/#comment-6184</guid>
		<description>"Yes, there is probably some truth to our government furthering its control of scarce natural resources (oil being the most visible"

*Some* truth?  I would say more then just some.  Of course natural resources are scarce ("like duh" as my daughter would say), but my concern is that we're thinking too short term and spending our limited *financial* resources in ways that are postponing and forestalling the day when we can finally relieve ourselves of dependence on some of those natural resources and the idiots (sorry Eugenia, some of them *are* idiots) that control them.

Of course we should defend ourselves against attackers, but I don't believe we had to nor would have spent over $200,000,000,000 to do that if there wasn't more to it.

We're trashing our financial resources to jockey ourselves into a slightly better position over a resource that's going to be *gone* soon anyway.  It doesn't matter whether it's the most liberal estimate of 10 years or the most conservative estimate of 70 years, it's going to be gone soon and *nobody* denies that ultimate outcome.

I think we should be spending *some* money to get the oil reserves to last as long as possible (and ensure we have some access to them), but the lion's share should be being spend on how to deal with the ultimate depletion before it hits us blindsided.  Maybe that's thinking like a child - so be it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes, there is probably some truth to our government furthering its control of scarce natural resources (oil being the most visible&#8221;</p>
<p>*Some* truth?  I would say more then just some.  Of course natural resources are scarce (&#8221;like duh&#8221; as my daughter would say), but my concern is that we&#8217;re thinking too short term and spending our limited *financial* resources in ways that are postponing and forestalling the day when we can finally relieve ourselves of dependence on some of those natural resources and the idiots (sorry Eugenia, some of them *are* idiots) that control them.</p>
<p>Of course we should defend ourselves against attackers, but I don&#8217;t believe we had to nor would have spent over $200,000,000,000 to do that if there wasn&#8217;t more to it.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re trashing our financial resources to jockey ourselves into a slightly better position over a resource that&#8217;s going to be *gone* soon anyway.  It doesn&#8217;t matter whether it&#8217;s the most liberal estimate of 10 years or the most conservative estimate of 70 years, it&#8217;s going to be gone soon and *nobody* denies that ultimate outcome.</p>
<p>I think we should be spending *some* money to get the oil reserves to last as long as possible (and ensure we have some access to them), but the lion&#8217;s share should be being spend on how to deal with the ultimate depletion before it hits us blindsided.  Maybe that&#8217;s thinking like a child - so be it.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugenia</title>
		<link>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/02/29/this-war-on-terrorism-is-bogus/#comment-6173</link>
		<author>Eugenia</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/02/29/this-war-on-terrorism-is-bogus/#comment-6173</guid>
		<description>Frank, when you, as an american, but MOST importantly, as an international Earth citizen, justify imperialism "just because at the current time your country is strong enough to seek imperialism", is simply weak. You justify being a BULLY, and THAT's childish, not us, "the liberals". This mindset is what starts wars. It's what makes our sons and daughters die in battle.

And please don't give me that "resources are scarce, and we need to fight to get them". I mean, US has spent SO much money in the recent wars, that they could have put into researching  FUSION. According to many, we will have fusion by 2050. IF all that money was put into research 15 years ago, we would have had fusion MUCH earlier, and NO LIVES would be lost in the process (well, except the ones who die in the lab testing stuff ;-) ).

You called me a liberal. But in reality, I am just a woman. And women, just don't like battles. Don't like wars. Don't like resource-extracting from the poor. Not that men like that, but women are more sensitive to these matters. Most women simply can't HANDLE these situations.

And no, it's not jealousy that makes other people not like USA  these days. It is the fact that US doesn't play fair, not even with its own people (AT&#038;T scandal anyone?). Back in the Clinton and Reagan times people didn't think of US the same way as they think in the Bush era. I truly hope that Obama will be able to restore the faith of the international community back to the US, because most of the Americans are good people. See, if you think that's all because of  jealousy, then you really need to travel more and discuss the matter with non-Americans and see what US does to these countries.

Still friends,
Eugenia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, when you, as an american, but MOST importantly, as an international Earth citizen, justify imperialism &#8220;just because at the current time your country is strong enough to seek imperialism&#8221;, is simply weak. You justify being a BULLY, and THAT&#8217;s childish, not us, &#8220;the liberals&#8221;. This mindset is what starts wars. It&#8217;s what makes our sons and daughters die in battle.</p>
<p>And please don&#8217;t give me that &#8220;resources are scarce, and we need to fight to get them&#8221;. I mean, US has spent SO much money in the recent wars, that they could have put into researching  FUSION. According to many, we will have fusion by 2050. IF all that money was put into research 15 years ago, we would have had fusion MUCH earlier, and NO LIVES would be lost in the process (well, except the ones who die in the lab testing stuff <img src='http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ).</p>
<p>You called me a liberal. But in reality, I am just a woman. And women, just don&#8217;t like battles. Don&#8217;t like wars. Don&#8217;t like resource-extracting from the poor. Not that men like that, but women are more sensitive to these matters. Most women simply can&#8217;t HANDLE these situations.</p>
<p>And no, it&#8217;s not jealousy that makes other people not like USA  these days. It is the fact that US doesn&#8217;t play fair, not even with its own people (AT&#038;T scandal anyone?). Back in the Clinton and Reagan times people didn&#8217;t think of US the same way as they think in the Bush era. I truly hope that Obama will be able to restore the faith of the international community back to the US, because most of the Americans are good people. See, if you think that&#8217;s all because of  jealousy, then you really need to travel more and discuss the matter with non-Americans and see what US does to these countries.</p>
<p>Still friends,<br />
Eugenia</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Miller</title>
		<link>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/02/29/this-war-on-terrorism-is-bogus/#comment-6170</link>
		<author>Frank Miller</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/02/29/this-war-on-terrorism-is-bogus/#comment-6170</guid>
		<description>Bitter would not be the right word.  Frustrated with liberalism I think is more where I am.  I get tired of listening to what "should" be.  Our world and its infinitely complex structures are built upon a basic truth that has existed since the dawn of this planet, scarcity.

The reason that governments are put in place is to further the economic and political interests of the governed.  The primary means for pursuing these interests are diplomatic and military.  It is the constitutionally designated responsibility of the United States government to provide a strong defense.  We have been extraordinarily successful due to the sacrifice of millions upon millions over the last two hundred years.

Now, the essence of yours and every other liberal's argument since 9/11 has been that the USA is basically just using that attack as an excuse to further its empire.  Yes, we are the American empire.  Yes, there is probably some truth to our government furthering its control of scarce natural resources (oil being the most visible, but not the only one).  While I wish we lived in the kind of world where people all got along and solved all their problems diplomatically.  Its just not the way things are.

The GWOT is about seeking out and destroying a loose confederation of people that have not only vowed to attack us at every turn, but have demonstrated repeatedly that they are both capable and determined to do it.  The reason they hate us may be philosophical or it may be even simpler, they're pissed off that we are in control and they are not, i.e. jealousy.  It really doesn't matter.  The result is the same.  We need to hunt them down and kill them.  That's what war is and that's what we are doing.  Just because you and a thousand other liberals things we "shouldn't" be doing that doesn't mean that we shouldn't.

With all due respect, I see yours and all the other liberal opinions as essentially the way children think.  I see our government and the defense and intelligence communities as the adults.  They provide the safety and security that allows you and others to play.

I don't mean this as disrespectful; you and all the others are and should be entitled to your opinions.  That’s the reason why this country is great after all.  It's just that my opinion is that you are basing your opinions on other than the reality of the situation.

With respect,
FM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bitter would not be the right word.  Frustrated with liberalism I think is more where I am.  I get tired of listening to what &#8220;should&#8221; be.  Our world and its infinitely complex structures are built upon a basic truth that has existed since the dawn of this planet, scarcity.</p>
<p>The reason that governments are put in place is to further the economic and political interests of the governed.  The primary means for pursuing these interests are diplomatic and military.  It is the constitutionally designated responsibility of the United States government to provide a strong defense.  We have been extraordinarily successful due to the sacrifice of millions upon millions over the last two hundred years.</p>
<p>Now, the essence of yours and every other liberal&#8217;s argument since 9/11 has been that the USA is basically just using that attack as an excuse to further its empire.  Yes, we are the American empire.  Yes, there is probably some truth to our government furthering its control of scarce natural resources (oil being the most visible, but not the only one).  While I wish we lived in the kind of world where people all got along and solved all their problems diplomatically.  Its just not the way things are.</p>
<p>The GWOT is about seeking out and destroying a loose confederation of people that have not only vowed to attack us at every turn, but have demonstrated repeatedly that they are both capable and determined to do it.  The reason they hate us may be philosophical or it may be even simpler, they&#8217;re pissed off that we are in control and they are not, i.e. jealousy.  It really doesn&#8217;t matter.  The result is the same.  We need to hunt them down and kill them.  That&#8217;s what war is and that&#8217;s what we are doing.  Just because you and a thousand other liberals things we &#8220;shouldn&#8217;t&#8221; be doing that doesn&#8217;t mean that we shouldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>With all due respect, I see yours and all the other liberal opinions as essentially the way children think.  I see our government and the defense and intelligence communities as the adults.  They provide the safety and security that allows you and others to play.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean this as disrespectful; you and all the others are and should be entitled to your opinions.  That’s the reason why this country is great after all.  It&#8217;s just that my opinion is that you are basing your opinions on other than the reality of the situation.</p>
<p>With respect,<br />
FM</p>
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		<title>By: Eugenia</title>
		<link>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/02/29/this-war-on-terrorism-is-bogus/#comment-6161</link>
		<author>Eugenia</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/02/29/this-war-on-terrorism-is-bogus/#comment-6161</guid>
		<description>Frank, your reply is bitter. The fact that a country does some things right does not mean that does OTHER things right.

Same thing with my own country, Greece. It does some things right, and it does other things WRONG.

So I am really surprised about this reply of yours.

Do you think it's HEALTHY to pet a country for doing things wrong, just because it does some things right? This is the very definition of APATHY, and I am not apathetic in things that I should not be apathetic as an international citizen. This is a matter that involves EVERYONE, not just US citizens.

You might be a patriot, and so when reading my blog post, or the article of that UK minister, you become bitter about it. But I don't have such allegiance to your country, and in fact, I don't have such allegiance to my OWN country either (did you READ my latest Macedonia-Greece blog post &#038; comments and see how much I criticize my OWN country?).

The reason why I do that is because I am not a chauvinistic person. I am not a "nationalist". I do not believe in governments of countries, I do not believe in ethnicities. I believe in ONE world order, an idea that the US supports I believe. Maybe I watch too much sci-fi. But it has to be democratic, peaceful, and it has to be global. That's the catch. No?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, your reply is bitter. The fact that a country does some things right does not mean that does OTHER things right.</p>
<p>Same thing with my own country, Greece. It does some things right, and it does other things WRONG.</p>
<p>So I am really surprised about this reply of yours.</p>
<p>Do you think it&#8217;s HEALTHY to pet a country for doing things wrong, just because it does some things right? This is the very definition of APATHY, and I am not apathetic in things that I should not be apathetic as an international citizen. This is a matter that involves EVERYONE, not just US citizens.</p>
<p>You might be a patriot, and so when reading my blog post, or the article of that UK minister, you become bitter about it. But I don&#8217;t have such allegiance to your country, and in fact, I don&#8217;t have such allegiance to my OWN country either (did you READ my latest Macedonia-Greece blog post &#038; comments and see how much I criticize my OWN country?).</p>
<p>The reason why I do that is because I am not a chauvinistic person. I am not a &#8220;nationalist&#8221;. I do not believe in governments of countries, I do not believe in ethnicities. I believe in ONE world order, an idea that the US supports I believe. Maybe I watch too much sci-fi. But it has to be democratic, peaceful, and it has to be global. That&#8217;s the catch. No?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Miller</title>
		<link>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/02/29/this-war-on-terrorism-is-bogus/#comment-6160</link>
		<author>Frank Miller</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/02/29/this-war-on-terrorism-is-bogus/#comment-6160</guid>
		<description>Good thing you live in a country that allows you to hold and voice these opinions.  Oh, wait, the defense spending and GWOT you are referring are responsible for the the safety and stability that allow you to espouse those opinions without fear of retribution.  Ever heard of biting the hand that feeds you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thing you live in a country that allows you to hold and voice these opinions.  Oh, wait, the defense spending and GWOT you are referring are responsible for the the safety and stability that allow you to espouse those opinions without fear of retribution.  Ever heard of biting the hand that feeds you?</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/02/29/this-war-on-terrorism-is-bogus/#comment-6135</link>
		<author>jeff</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/02/29/this-war-on-terrorism-is-bogus/#comment-6135</guid>
		<description>I know what you mean, but since you mentioned oil I'll enumerate.  
- The US government makes more off gasoline than the oil companies (US makes 40 cents, Exxon only makes 7 cents, per gallon), the saudi's or whomever make the majority of the profits NOT us.
- We're basically screwed, if they feel like we're going to alternative fuels, they'll increase their prices, we're screwed in the short run even if we switch technologies.
-anytime you have a group of people sitting on a gold mine, where they didn't have to do a damn thing in their lives but be born, then you have problems with corruption etc.

Conclusion:  I am all for the Democrats social agendas, but I'm also not selfish and don't think I'm the center of the world.  I think middle eastern people are more spoiled than us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what you mean, but since you mentioned oil I&#8217;ll enumerate.<br />
- The US government makes more off gasoline than the oil companies (US makes 40 cents, Exxon only makes 7 cents, per gallon), the saudi&#8217;s or whomever make the majority of the profits NOT us.<br />
- We&#8217;re basically screwed, if they feel like we&#8217;re going to alternative fuels, they&#8217;ll increase their prices, we&#8217;re screwed in the short run even if we switch technologies.<br />
-anytime you have a group of people sitting on a gold mine, where they didn&#8217;t have to do a damn thing in their lives but be born, then you have problems with corruption etc.</p>
<p>Conclusion:  I am all for the Democrats social agendas, but I&#8217;m also not selfish and don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m the center of the world.  I think middle eastern people are more spoiled than us.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/02/29/this-war-on-terrorism-is-bogus/#comment-6133</link>
		<author>Brendan</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/02/29/this-war-on-terrorism-is-bogus/#comment-6133</guid>
		<description>Certain people's lust for power is a nightmare. That said so much pain comes from mankind's so-called differences, generally cultural and religious, that if the US was to take over the world would that be worse that the problems of today (or yestarday)?  
I am not a fan of the US administration at all but in reality all administrations suck (Chinese, Middle East, European, Russian etc) let's just get it over with?  Once it's done then we can start to work out the problems within it.
I'm sick of people dying in pointless wars and the amount of money/ time / resources we waste on 'defence' is utterly ridiculous and quite shameful.  
As you said bring on Star Trek and the united planet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certain people&#8217;s lust for power is a nightmare. That said so much pain comes from mankind&#8217;s so-called differences, generally cultural and religious, that if the US was to take over the world would that be worse that the problems of today (or yestarday)?<br />
I am not a fan of the US administration at all but in reality all administrations suck (Chinese, Middle East, European, Russian etc) let&#8217;s just get it over with?  Once it&#8217;s done then we can start to work out the problems within it.<br />
I&#8217;m sick of people dying in pointless wars and the amount of money/ time / resources we waste on &#8216;defence&#8217; is utterly ridiculous and quite shameful.<br />
As you said bring on Star Trek and the united planet!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Rosky</title>
		<link>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/02/29/this-war-on-terrorism-is-bogus/#comment-6132</link>
		<author>Dave Rosky</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/02/29/this-war-on-terrorism-is-bogus/#comment-6132</guid>
		<description>It's mind boggling to me to think of how much collective resources we have spent on the "war on terrorism", and the "war on drugs" for that matter.

If we took the $100-200 billion or so we have spent in Iraq and put it into research, by now we could all be using alternative fuels, be driving our cars for pennies per mile without polluting the air, be independent of foreign oil (&lt;b&gt;all&lt;/b&gt; oil for that matter), and be carbon neutral.   Well, maybe not all of that, but certainly a lot of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s mind boggling to me to think of how much collective resources we have spent on the &#8220;war on terrorism&#8221;, and the &#8220;war on drugs&#8221; for that matter.</p>
<p>If we took the $100-200 billion or so we have spent in Iraq and put it into research, by now we could all be using alternative fuels, be driving our cars for pennies per mile without polluting the air, be independent of foreign oil (<b>all</b> oil for that matter), and be carbon neutral.   Well, maybe not all of that, but certainly a lot of it.</p>
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