Comments on: Apple: oh, how you failed me http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/15/apple-oh-how-you-failed-me/ Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:43:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Eugenia http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/15/apple-oh-how-you-failed-me/#comment-5419 Eugenia Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:34:30 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/15/apple-oh-how-you-failed-me/#comment-5419 >I see you edited you last comment so my reply COLIN: I NEVER EDITED ANYTHING of what you wrote. I only edited my own comment to add the information about the difference between intermediate and delivery codecs. Get real! If you don't understand the difference between the intermediate and delivery codecs, then you should not even be replying to this video-related blog. > <i>They just made a product that is intended [by them] to be used that way.</i> Well, they can have it then. If the sentence truly ends on that dot, then there is absolutely nothing else to discuss then! You made it absolutely clear that the AppleTV is NOT a <em>general purpose video playback device</em>, but a Hollywood-endorsed device made by them, for their own commercial purposes alone. This discussion is closed then! We agree then that this is not the video product I am looking for or thought I was! Thanks for clearing this out, this settles it. >I see you edited you last comment so my reply

COLIN: I NEVER EDITED ANYTHING of what you wrote. I only edited my own comment to add the information about the difference between intermediate and delivery codecs. Get real! If you don’t understand the difference between the intermediate and delivery codecs, then you should not even be replying to this video-related blog.

> They just made a product that is intended [by them] to be used that way.

Well, they can have it then. If the sentence truly ends on that dot, then there is absolutely nothing else to discuss then! You made it absolutely clear that the AppleTV is NOT a general purpose video playback device, but a Hollywood-endorsed device made by them, for their own commercial purposes alone.

This discussion is closed then! We agree then that this is not the video product I am looking for or thought I was! Thanks for clearing this out, this settles it.

]]> By: Eugenia http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/15/apple-oh-how-you-failed-me/#comment-5418 Eugenia Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:31:57 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/15/apple-oh-how-you-failed-me/#comment-5418 >You are so self focused it is unreal. Yes. I guess because I am not a format racist. Because I ask for a product that makes sense. Because I have the GUTS to call on his holiness Steve. >You are so self focused it is unreal.

Yes. I guess because I am not a format racist. Because I ask for a product that makes sense. Because I have the GUTS to call on his holiness Steve.

]]> By: l3v1 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/15/apple-oh-how-you-failed-me/#comment-5417 l3v1 Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:31:46 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/15/apple-oh-how-you-failed-me/#comment-5417 "Apple seems to think that buying or renting Hollywood movies it’s all what constitutes “video”." Not really. They just made a product that is intended [by them] to be used that way. And the sentence has just ended there at the dot. “Apple seems to think that buying or renting Hollywood movies it’s all what constitutes “video”.”

Not really. They just made a product that is intended [by them] to be used that way. And the sentence has just ended there at the dot.

]]> By: Collin http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/15/apple-oh-how-you-failed-me/#comment-5416 Collin Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:31:39 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/15/apple-oh-how-you-failed-me/#comment-5416 I see you edited you last comment so my reply will not make much sense to other readers. Go job covering up your ride in the waaaaambulance. I see you edited you last comment so my reply will not make much sense to other readers. Go job covering up your ride in the waaaaambulance.

]]> By: Eugenia http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/15/apple-oh-how-you-failed-me/#comment-5415 Eugenia Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:30:47 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/15/apple-oh-how-you-failed-me/#comment-5415 What's your point l3v1? Are you gonna bore us with such puny details instead of actually contributing to the discussion with any real meaning? Codec or not, WMV or not, the point is, it's popular with home movie exports. That's all that matters. What’s your point l3v1? Are you gonna bore us with such puny details instead of actually contributing to the discussion with any real meaning? Codec or not, WMV or not, the point is, it’s popular with home movie exports. That’s all that matters.

]]> By: Collin http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/15/apple-oh-how-you-failed-me/#comment-5414 Collin Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:29:50 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/15/apple-oh-how-you-failed-me/#comment-5414 Wow. Are you an only child? You are so self focused it is unreal. I just got off the phone with Steve and told him his plan to make fun of Eugenia's needs was a rousing success. He seemed pleased. I am done trying to make you realize that not everything can be exactly as you want it all the time and to accept things are they are. You obviously only care about your needs and your perception of what others want. I have been quite happy with my ATV since I got it. It does everything I need it to do. Sure it required a little "upgrading" but there is little out there that will perform as you want it right out of the box. Blame the industry and lawyers for that. Sorry that the ATV isn't for you. Maybe something will come along that is. Until then I don't think your world is going to collapse. Wow. Are you an only child? You are so self focused it is unreal. I just got off the phone with Steve and told him his plan to make fun of Eugenia’s needs was a rousing success. He seemed pleased. I am done trying to make you realize that not everything can be exactly as you want it all the time and to accept things are they are. You obviously only care about your needs and your perception of what others want. I have been quite happy with my ATV since I got it. It does everything I need it to do. Sure it required a little “upgrading” but there is little out there that will perform as you want it right out of the box. Blame the industry and lawyers for that.

Sorry that the ATV isn’t for you. Maybe something will come along that is. Until then I don’t think your world is going to collapse.

]]> By: l3v1 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/15/apple-oh-how-you-failed-me/#comment-5413 l3v1 Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:28:33 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/15/apple-oh-how-you-failed-me/#comment-5413 "created WMV. I only know that it’s a POPULAR __codec__" [emph added] Ahem. “created WMV. I only know that it’s a POPULAR __codec__” [emph added]

Ahem.

]]> By: Eugenia http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/15/apple-oh-how-you-failed-me/#comment-5412 Eugenia Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:18:02 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/15/apple-oh-how-you-failed-me/#comment-5412 >Movie Maker will publish to DV-AVI. Did you even read my reply above about "delivery" and "intermediate" codecs???? Do you understand the difference? As I explained, DV-AVI is NOT, I repeat, NOT, a delivery codec. It's an <a href="http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/10/19/understanding-intermediate-and-delivery-video-formats/" rel="nofollow">intermediate</a> codec. It's 25 to 50mbps! This is simply unrealistic and NOT what users want. It's an editing/archiving format, not a viewing format. And besides, the AppleTV does not support DV-AVI anyway. And don't talk about re-encodings, because that would constitute TWO encodings, which is again, not what the user wants. >So why do you care about the ATVs misgivings so much? Because I WANTED ONE. I was ready to shell out cash, as I blogged about it a few days ago. But I needed it to work as you would expect from a "video playback device". >Movie Maker will publish to DV-AVI.

Did you even read my reply above about “delivery” and “intermediate” codecs???? Do you understand the difference?

As I explained, DV-AVI is NOT, I repeat, NOT, a delivery codec. It’s an intermediate codec. It’s 25 to 50mbps! This is simply unrealistic and NOT what users want. It’s an editing/archiving format, not a viewing format.

And besides, the AppleTV does not support DV-AVI anyway. And don’t talk about re-encodings, because that would constitute TWO encodings, which is again, not what the user wants.

>So why do you care about the ATVs misgivings so much?

Because I WANTED ONE. I was ready to shell out cash, as I blogged about it a few days ago. But I needed it to work as you would expect from a “video playback device”.

]]> By: Collin http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/15/apple-oh-how-you-failed-me/#comment-5411 Collin Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:11:23 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/15/apple-oh-how-you-failed-me/#comment-5411 Movie Maker will publish to DV-AVI. ot at HD resolution mind you but if you are using Windows Movie Maker for HD work you have bigger problems then ATV not supporting wmv. And seriously if the ATV doesn't do what you want then move on. It is not for you obviously. Again you want a system that does what you want and has little cabling? Build a headless HTPC that is mangaged wirelessly. The number of cables would be about the same and you would have full control over what it does and does not do. And you state you have a PS3 doing what you need currently? So why do you care about the ATVs misgivings so much? Movie Maker will publish to DV-AVI. ot at HD resolution mind you but if you are using Windows Movie Maker for HD work you have bigger problems then ATV not supporting wmv. And seriously if the ATV doesn’t do what you want then move on. It is not for you obviously. Again you want a system that does what you want and has little cabling? Build a headless HTPC that is mangaged wirelessly. The number of cables would be about the same and you would have full control over what it does and does not do. And you state you have a PS3 doing what you need currently? So why do you care about the ATVs misgivings so much?

]]> By: Eugenia http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/15/apple-oh-how-you-failed-me/#comment-5410 Eugenia Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:05:58 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/15/apple-oh-how-you-failed-me/#comment-5410 Corey, please read the discussion before you reply here. I explained that the WMV problem is not a commercial distribution problem: it's a user-oriented content instead. Corey, please read the discussion before you reply here. I explained that the WMV problem is not a commercial distribution problem: it’s a user-oriented content instead.

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