Comments on: Exporting for TV’s gamma http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/10/10/exporting-for-tvs-gamma/ Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:14:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Eugenia http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/10/10/exporting-for-tvs-gamma/#comment-4328 Eugenia Sun, 14 Oct 2007 00:16:17 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/10/10/exporting-for-tvs-gamma/#comment-4328 Speak for your own NTSC CRT TV. If all were the same, video professionals wouldn't have a real CRT TV next to their PC monitors to test their videos. The reality is, TVs don't look the same as PC monitors. Be it just a gamma issue or something more. Speak for your own NTSC CRT TV. If all were the same, video professionals wouldn’t have a real CRT TV next to their PC monitors to test their videos. The reality is, TVs don’t look the same as PC monitors. Be it just a gamma issue or something more.

]]> By: mikesum32 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/10/10/exporting-for-tvs-gamma/#comment-4327 mikesum32 Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:23:56 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/10/10/exporting-for-tvs-gamma/#comment-4327 Well, NTSC CRT TVs are set to 2.2, and as for PCs, have checked the <a href="http://i21.tinypic.com/35cq32w.jpg" rel="nofollow">control panel ?</a> Well, NTSC CRT TVs are set to 2.2, and as for PCs, have checked the control panel ?

]]> By: Eugenia http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/10/10/exporting-for-tvs-gamma/#comment-4321 Eugenia Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:32:30 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/10/10/exporting-for-tvs-gamma/#comment-4321 Yeah, well, there is nothing that you can do on a TV to tell it to be 2.2, and nothing on my PC either. Only on the Macs you can give it such a value. Yeah, well, there is nothing that you can do on a TV to tell it to be 2.2, and nothing on my PC either. Only on the Macs you can give it such a value.

]]> By: mikesum32 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/10/10/exporting-for-tvs-gamma/#comment-4313 mikesum32 Sat, 13 Oct 2007 08:29:23 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/10/10/exporting-for-tvs-gamma/#comment-4313 Macs, TVs, and PCs that use CRTS should all be set to 2.2, AFAIK. MACs used to be set for 1.8. Macs, TVs, and PCs that use CRTS should all be set to 2.2, AFAIK. MACs used to be set for 1.8.

]]> By: Eugenia http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/10/10/exporting-for-tvs-gamma/#comment-4311 Eugenia Sat, 13 Oct 2007 02:04:26 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/10/10/exporting-for-tvs-gamma/#comment-4311 <i> >Shouldn’t you calibrate your tv and your computer monitor? > I’m pretty sure they’d look nearly the same if both are calibrate correctly.</i> PC, Mac and TVs have all different gammas. If I calibrate my PC monitor to be like a TV, then it would look like a terrible PC monitor. Besides, to get proper monitor calibration you need special tools, and even if I do calibrate it the same as on my TV, it would still not be the same as on other TVs. There's no way out of this mess. >Shouldn’t you calibrate your tv and your computer monitor?
> I’m pretty sure they’d look nearly the same if both are calibrate correctly.

PC, Mac and TVs have all different gammas. If I calibrate my PC monitor to be like a TV, then it would look like a terrible PC monitor. Besides, to get proper monitor calibration you need special tools, and even if I do calibrate it the same as on my TV, it would still not be the same as on other TVs. There’s no way out of this mess.

]]> By: mikesum32 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/10/10/exporting-for-tvs-gamma/#comment-4310 mikesum32 Sat, 13 Oct 2007 01:50:10 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/10/10/exporting-for-tvs-gamma/#comment-4310 Shouldn't you calibrate your tv and your computer monitor ? I'm pretty sure they'd look nearly the same if both are calibrate correctly. I found out about gamma correction years ago, and it's like a light went off. I thought to myself, "so that's why photos look too dark! I can't stand a linux distros (or alternative OSes) that doesn't have xgamma or other means of gamma correction. I sometimes run in to washed out pictures and video that people with CRTs and no gamma correction have "corrected" via brightness and contrast settings. Of course they look like crap for those of us in the know. Shouldn’t you calibrate your tv and your computer monitor ? I’m pretty sure they’d look nearly the same if both are calibrate correctly.

I found out about gamma correction years ago, and it’s like a light went off. I thought to myself, “so that’s why photos look too dark! I can’t stand a linux distros (or alternative OSes) that doesn’t have xgamma or other means of gamma correction. I sometimes run in to washed out pictures and video that people with CRTs and no gamma correction have “corrected” via brightness and contrast settings. Of course they look like crap for those of us in the know.

]]> By: Eugenia http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/10/10/exporting-for-tvs-gamma/#comment-4285 Eugenia Wed, 10 Oct 2007 23:26:04 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/10/10/exporting-for-tvs-gamma/#comment-4285 Vegas' “Computer RGB to Studio RGB” plugin template is just that. But it still doesn't deliver perfectly on my TV (although it does things a bit better). My suggestions above are nothing but an "extreme version" of that template. TVs from different manufacturers are not calibrated the same way so it's difficult to export a video in a way that looks good everywhere. Vegas’ “Computer RGB to Studio RGB” plugin template is just that. But it still doesn’t deliver perfectly on my TV (although it does things a bit better). My suggestions above are nothing but an “extreme version” of that template. TVs from different manufacturers are not calibrated the same way so it’s difficult to export a video in a way that looks good everywhere.

]]> By: Justin http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/10/10/exporting-for-tvs-gamma/#comment-4284 Justin Wed, 10 Oct 2007 23:21:49 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/10/10/exporting-for-tvs-gamma/#comment-4284 It'd be helpful if all post production software had the filter "make it look really good on plasma/lcd/crt/hdtv/monitor". Can you hear me Adobe? Final Cut? It’d be helpful if all post production software had the filter “make it look really good on plasma/lcd/crt/hdtv/monitor”.

Can you hear me Adobe? Final Cut?

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