>Science is not religion. It doesn’t require your faith. Science is simply science, the path of the more logical people.

I have no problem with science itself. It’s something we need and it’s ok. But you see, people *believe* in science. Science is The Truth. And what’s not scientific is [silly, superstition, false, evil, fallacy, stupidity,…]

In 300 years from now kids will laugh in school when teachers tell them about the things we believed in the beginning of the 21st century. What science believes to be true today will be proved false eventually. So scientists should be humble enough to say: “This is what we can offer. It’s not the truth, it’s obviously false. But we can’t offer anything better for now”. No, instead they speak like Popes about they’re discoveries and people believe in it faithfully. And dismiss/marginalize/laugh at those who don’t believe in it or believe in something else (yeah, at east they don’t burn them alive, that’s something).

It’s the *attitude* what wrong about science. There’s nothing wrong with science being in its infancy. That’s fine. We’ll get there eventually. But as of today, any scientific truth should be taken with all the grains of salt in the Pacific ocean, since it’s no more than a joke.

Yet people believe in them, because “it has evidence” and because “it doesn’t require your faith”. Are you sure?

You’re right. I see organized religion much more as a problem these days than religion itself. There are two very different notions that should not be confused one for the other.

I also believe in the actual word of Christianity and trying to live by that code, and this is why I call myself an agnostic most of the times and not a downright atheist. However, this doesn’t mean that I am “accepted” as Christian by the churches.

Yes, and you forget science. Science is the official religion of our time. It has become for average persons what religion was for average persons in the middle ages. And beware if you believe in something that’s outside the scientific canon!

Anyway, religion doesn’t cause pain, war and horror - people do.

The young Muslim that randomguy mentions is quite frightening here in the west. In the Middle East Islamic countries his views are quite normal and serious. (If your sibling or offspring drop their Islamic “faith” (apostasy) then you expect to kill them.) This is a belief in ABSOLUTE truth; that welds together religion, judicial systems and politics in a single quantity. Even (especially) among the Islamic youth religion is a massive massive thing in a way westerners struggle and fail to comprehend.

Many practical Muslims practice religion as (we understand) religion and are happy to have separate judicial and political systems but by NO means all. This is probably the biggest struggle across the Islamic peoples.

Britain (and perhaps the US) has been gobsmackingly naive about how we absorb such people into our societies. Sharia courts already operate in many British cities - behind closed doors.

Developing a western branding on ‘ABSOLUTE TRUTH that must be thrust down everyones throat’ in the strident Dr Dawkins style is NOT progress.

(And, by the way, I do not buy into the nonsense about there being no mass-murder/ genocide in the name of atheism).