Comments on: A sad day for the PPC architecture http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/02/13/a-sad-day-for-the-ppc-architecture/ Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:51:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Jon http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/02/13/a-sad-day-for-the-ppc-architecture/#comment-1657 Jon Fri, 16 Feb 2007 09:19:00 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/02/13/a-sad-day-for-the-ppc-architecture/#comment-1657 PPC is still a primary release arch for Debian GNU/Linux, and you can guarantee it will remain so as long as the arch criteria are met. PPC is still a primary release arch for Debian GNU/Linux, and you can guarantee it will remain so as long as the arch criteria are met.

]]> By: Sitsofe http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/02/13/a-sad-day-for-the-ppc-architecture/#comment-1656 Sitsofe Thu, 15 Feb 2007 08:26:00 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/02/13/a-sad-day-for-the-ppc-architecture/#comment-1656 PPC on the desktop may be suffering but there are serious PPC servers out there (and can be bought new) which is why expect the likes Red Hat will continue to actively support that architecture for the foreseeable future. I’m guessing consumer peripherals and possibly non vesa X will feel the burden most… PPC on the desktop may be suffering but there are serious PPC servers out there (and can be bought new) which is why expect the likes Red Hat will continue to actively support that architecture for the foreseeable future. I’m guessing consumer peripherals and possibly non vesa X will feel the burden most…

]]> By: Deacon Nikolai http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/02/13/a-sad-day-for-the-ppc-architecture/#comment-1655 Deacon Nikolai Thu, 15 Feb 2007 06:52:00 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/02/13/a-sad-day-for-the-ppc-architecture/#comment-1655 Time for PPC users to switch to <a href="http://www.TerraSoftSolutions.com" rel="nofollow">Yellow Dog Linux</a>! Time for PPC users to switch to Yellow Dog Linux!

]]> By: billg http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/02/13/a-sad-day-for-the-ppc-architecture/#comment-1654 billg Wed, 14 Feb 2007 03:11:00 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/02/13/a-sad-day-for-the-ppc-architecture/#comment-1654 Too bad, but not unexpected that Ubuntu would abandon that part of their use base. I’ve got a “last revision” PPC iMac and the last time I looked — a couple of months ago — no Linux works properly on it. (The fans run all the time. At least one prominent developer apparently said he didn’t own such a machine and so wasn’t going to worry about it. I consider that the unveiling of clay in the feet of open source.) I was hoping to run Linux on it when Apple stopped supporting it. Guess this is one former, and prospective, Linux user who will just buy another Mac and run OS X. Too bad, but not unexpected that Ubuntu would abandon that part of their use base.

I’ve got a “last revision” PPC iMac and the last time I looked — a couple of months ago — no Linux works properly on it. (The fans run all the time. At least one prominent developer apparently said he didn’t own such a machine and so wasn’t going to worry about it. I consider that the unveiling of clay in the feet of open source.)

I was hoping to run Linux on it when Apple stopped supporting it. Guess this is one former, and prospective, Linux user who will just buy another Mac and run OS X.

]]> By: Oliver Herold http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/02/13/a-sad-day-for-the-ppc-architecture/#comment-1653 Oliver Herold Wed, 14 Feb 2007 02:40:00 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/02/13/a-sad-day-for-the-ppc-architecture/#comment-1653 I said *open source*, the mainstream isn’t open source (the higher goal behind it), it’s barely some kind of community. OpenBSD and NetBSD do support PPC, FreeBSD is tier 2. <a href='http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/' rel='nofollow'>http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/</a> <a href='http://www.openbsd.org/macppc.html' rel='nofollow'>http://www.openbsd.org/macppc.html</a> <a href='http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ppc.html' rel='nofollow'>http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ppc.html</a> I said *open source*, the mainstream isn’t open source (the higher goal behind it), it’s barely some kind of community. OpenBSD and NetBSD do support PPC, FreeBSD is tier 2.

http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/
http://www.openbsd.org/macppc.html
http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ppc.html

]]> By: Chris Baskind http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/02/13/a-sad-day-for-the-ppc-architecture/#comment-1652 Chris Baskind Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:57:00 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/02/13/a-sad-day-for-the-ppc-architecture/#comment-1652 Yeah, it’s a shame. I’ll move over to Intel-based Mac when this G5 PowerMac calls it a day (which, thankfully, it shows no sign of doing). But there are a lot of nice PPC boxes in the field — cheap — and now the clock is now really ticking on the platform. I think the real end of the line for PPC will be when the major vendors — Adobe, chief among them — release solely to MacTel. This is already starting to happen. Leopard is surely the last stop for G4. Apple will probably support the G5 through 10.6. By that time, it will have been at least three years since the last G5 rolled off Apple’s shipping floor. Hello, obsolescence. Won’t matter, though. You won’t be able to buy current pro software by that point, and professional users will have migrated to MacTel. Yeah, it’s a shame. I’ll move over to Intel-based Mac when this G5 PowerMac calls it a day (which, thankfully, it shows no sign of doing). But there are a lot of nice PPC boxes in the field — cheap — and now the clock is now really ticking on the platform.

I think the real end of the line for PPC will be when the major vendors — Adobe, chief among them — release solely to MacTel. This is already starting to happen.

Leopard is surely the last stop for G4. Apple will probably support the G5 through 10.6. By that time, it will have been at least three years since the last G5 rolled off Apple’s shipping floor. Hello, obsolescence.

Won’t matter, though. You won’t be able to buy current pro software by that point, and professional users will have migrated to MacTel.

]]> By: Eugenia http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/02/13/a-sad-day-for-the-ppc-architecture/#comment-1651 Eugenia Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:43:00 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/02/13/a-sad-day-for-the-ppc-architecture/#comment-1651 Hmm, didn’t know that. Fedora is the No2 distro today (except in Europe where SuSE is No2), but I am not sure how much weight they put on the PPC itself. Hmm, didn’t know that. Fedora is the No2 distro today (except in Europe where SuSE is No2), but I am not sure how much weight they put on the PPC itself.

]]> By: Brian http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/02/13/a-sad-day-for-the-ppc-architecture/#comment-1650 Brian Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:34:00 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/02/13/a-sad-day-for-the-ppc-architecture/#comment-1650 Fedora still supports PPC as a primary arch. Fedora still supports PPC as a primary arch.

]]> By: Tom Dison http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/02/13/a-sad-day-for-the-ppc-architecture/#comment-1649 Tom Dison Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:03:00 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/02/13/a-sad-day-for-the-ppc-architecture/#comment-1649 Someday PPC will just be #39 on the list of supported NetBSD architectures. It will be right above PC98 and below the Zaurus. ;} Someday PPC will just be #39 on the list of supported NetBSD architectures. It will be right above PC98 and below the Zaurus. ;}

]]> By: Eugenia http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/02/13/a-sad-day-for-the-ppc-architecture/#comment-1648 Eugenia Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:40:00 +0000 http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/02/13/a-sad-day-for-the-ppc-architecture/#comment-1648 Sorry, but it doesn’t work this way. Except YDL, all other distros are simply not having PPC in their main roster, just like Ubuntu now doesn’t. And YDL has made it CLEAR that they only care for the server side of things and not a well-behaving desktop. IMO, there is no other strong competitor that people CARE to install. When OSX stops releasing for the PPC, Linux won’t be as bug-free as people would like to be and so the platform will go to the dogs for the majority of users. Sorry, but it doesn’t work this way. Except YDL, all other distros are simply not having PPC in their main roster, just like Ubuntu now doesn’t. And YDL has made it CLEAR that they only care for the server side of things and not a well-behaving desktop. IMO, there is no other strong competitor that people CARE to install. When OSX stops releasing for the PPC, Linux won’t be as bug-free as people would like to be and so the platform will go to the dogs for the majority of users.

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